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Re: Beach Cruiser Convoy to Ocean Beach for CicloSDias

Rob Gordon
 

Awesome group of people showed up for today's ride.  Also, we seem to have broken the PB40  bike club jinx of "one flat tire every ride".   Everyone had a nice ride and returned home without incident.   Only one minor glitch - Angela brought her roller blades and we missed her text message for the return trip home.  Sorry Angela!


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On Saturday, October 13, 2018 at 7:14:12 PM UTC-7, Rob Gordon wrote:
CicloSDias is an event that started in Bogotá, Columbia and became a movement that spread worldwide.  On one special day, city streets in urban areas are closed to vehicle traffic and the business district is open only to pedestrians, bike riders, skaters, etc. Ocean Beach will be having one on Sunday. October 21 and it is a perfect excuse for a lazy bike ride.  

Let's meet at Fanuel Park at 11am. Should take less than an hour to get there. Goof around in OB and eat some street food or whatever, and then bike back. Post your location if you want to join us on route.

Looks like we got us a convoy!   

OB CicloSDias.jpg

Re: Beach Cruiser Convoy to Ocean Beach for CicloSDias

 

@Val Turner Hope you can make it - it would be nice to ride with you again, and we will be meeting about 20 feet from your front door.  

@Marie Lapointe What a nice offer - did you get your flat fixed?  Looking forward to seeing you tomorrow.


On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 7:43 AM Marie Lapointe <lamarienicole@...> wrote:
If anyone wants to come but doesn’t have a bike, I may have an extra one. My front tire was flat, it could just be a slow leak since I haven’t used it in a while. I just put air in it and we can see where it’ll be at later today :)

On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 3:27 PM Val Turner <valturnerr@...> wrote:
I might be able to go! Sounds great! 

On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 7:14 PM Rob Gordon <rob@...> wrote:
CicloSDias is an event that started in Bogotá, Columbia and became a movement that spread worldwide.  On one special day, city streets in urban areas are closed to vehicle traffic and the business district is open only to pedestrians, bike riders, skaters, etc. Ocean Beach will be having one on Sunday. October 21 and it is a perfect excuse for a lazy bike ride.  

Let's meet at Fanuel Park at 11am. Should take less than an hour to get there. Goof around in OB and eat some street food or whatever, and then bike back. Post your location if you want to join us on route.

Looks like we got us a convoy!   

OB CicloSDias.jpg


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Re: Beach Cruiser Convoy to Ocean Beach for CicloSDias

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If anyone wants to come but doesn’t have a bike, I may have an extra one. My front tire was flat, it could just be a slow leak since I haven’t used it in a while. I just put air in it and we can see where it’ll be at later today :)

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I might be able to go! Sounds great! 

On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 7:14 PM Rob Gordon <rob@...> wrote:
CicloSDias is an event that started in Bogotá, Columbia and became a movement that spread worldwide.  On one special day, city streets in urban areas are closed to vehicle traffic and the business district is open only to pedestrians, bike riders, skaters, etc. Ocean Beach will be having one on Sunday. October 21 and it is a perfect excuse for a lazy bike ride.  

Let's meet at Fanuel Park at 11am. Should take less than an hour to get there. Goof around in OB and eat some street food or whatever, and then bike back. Post your location if you want to join us on route.

Looks like we got us a convoy!   

OB CicloSDias.jpg


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Re: Beach Cruiser Convoy to Ocean Beach for CicloSDias

Val
 

I might be able to go! Sounds great! 

On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 7:14 PM Rob Gordon <rob@...> wrote:
CicloSDias is an event that started in Bogotá, Columbia and became a movement that spread worldwide.  On one special day, city streets in urban areas are closed to vehicle traffic and the business district is open only to pedestrians, bike riders, skaters, etc. Ocean Beach will be having one on Sunday. October 21 and it is a perfect excuse for a lazy bike ride.  

Let's meet at Fanuel Park at 11am. Should take less than an hour to get there. Goof around in OB and eat some street food or whatever, and then bike back. Post your location if you want to join us on route.

Looks like we got us a convoy!   

OB CicloSDias.jpg


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Re: Beach Cruiser Convoy to Ocean Beach for CicloSDias

 

Awesome Marie and Angela 

A few people I know from Twitter might be coming too, and I caught wind from them that Northpark will be sending a convoy. I am not aware that anyone else from PB is organizing a convoy so maybe we should make this one the official delegation.  For this reason, I think we should hold our noses and open this to the youngins this time.

Spread the word: 

Beach Cruiser* Convoy to Ocean Beach CicloSDias leaving this Sunday at 11am from Fanuel Park - EVERYONE  WELCOME!

(*regular bikes are fine if you don't have a beach cruiser)

Rob


On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 3:21 PM Marie Lapointe <lamarienicole@...> wrote:
Looking forward to it!!!
Marie





On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 1:18 PM <angela.acfalle@...> wrote:
I’m in!

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Re: Beach Cruiser Convoy to Ocean Beach for CicloSDias

Marie Lapointe
 

Looking forward to it!!!
Marie





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I’m in!

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Re: Women's Only Firearms Safety Clinic

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Tina
This sounds so interesting!
I’m a retired Navy Nurse and miss the combat training. This will be a little throwback to pre-deployment training.
Unfortunately I have so many events on Sunday. 9:30-2:30 is hard.
Would you message me for the next local class if you can

Thanks so much!

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Beach Cruiser Convoy to Ocean Beach for CicloSDias

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I’m in!

Re: Beach Cruiser Convoy to Ocean Beach for CicloSDias

Rob Gordon
 

Fantastic Jay - looking forward to riding with you again. 

Rob


On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 12:53 PM Jay <jayglic@...> wrote:
I am back from my trip and will be there at 11am on Sunday.

On Saturday, October 13, 2018 at 7:14:12 PM UTC-7, Rob Gordon wrote:
CicloSDias is an event that started in Bogotá, Columbia and became a movement that spread worldwide.  On one special day, city streets in urban areas are closed to vehicle traffic and the business district is open only to pedestrians, bike riders, skaters, etc. Ocean Beach will be having one on Sunday. October 21 and it is a perfect excuse for a lazy bike ride.  

Let's meet at Fanuel Park at 11am. Should take less than an hour to get there. Goof around in OB and eat some street food or whatever, and then bike back. Post your location if you want to join us on route.

Looks like we got us a convoy!   

OB CicloSDias.jpg

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Re: Beach Cruiser Convoy to Ocean Beach for CicloSDias

Jay
 

I am back from my trip and will be there at 11am on Sunday.


On Saturday, October 13, 2018 at 7:14:12 PM UTC-7, Rob Gordon wrote:
CicloSDias is an event that started in Bogotá, Columbia and became a movement that spread worldwide.  On one special day, city streets in urban areas are closed to vehicle traffic and the business district is open only to pedestrians, bike riders, skaters, etc. Ocean Beach will be having one on Sunday. October 21 and it is a perfect excuse for a lazy bike ride.  

Let's meet at Fanuel Park at 11am. Should take less than an hour to get there. Goof around in OB and eat some street food or whatever, and then bike back. Post your location if you want to join us on route.

Looks like we got us a convoy!   

OB CicloSDias.jpg

Re: anyone like to play pool?

David cCausson
 

Thank you for your help Rob!

Dave

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 11:27 PM Rob Gordon <rob@...> wrote:
Fantastic David - count me in.   You seemed to have uncovered an area where there is ton of interest here.   A week or so before your meetup I will send a calendar invitation to everyone - I am sure you will get a great turnout. 

Rob


On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 10:20 PM david clausson <sdpbdc@...> wrote:
yep ill rent a table at 4 so we have gather area, I am hoping everyone is able to navigate these messages,so everyone who is interested  there is a over 40 gathering at society bar an billiards. on the 14th of Nov, starting at 4pm. 

Dave.     

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 12:44 PM Rob Gordon <rob@...> wrote:
Sounds great - so it will be at least a few hours right?  - if some people don't make it till five or six?   Some people will be able to make it by 4pm I am sure.  Looks like you have found an area with lots of interest so I am sure you will get a decent turnout.

Rob




On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 12:41 PM david clausson <sdpbdc@...> wrote:
I know the owner, Rob so when I know how many people R.S.V.P I should be able to get a better price per person for the renting the table's. as to time for people to show up, 4:00 is when ill be there...people can show up later it's ok.

Dave

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Awesome David - I am wondering though if it was just a bit later more of our members with day jobs could make it.  Also may I ask what the table fees are?  Thank you for taking the lead on this.

Rob

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 12:28 PM david clausson <sdpbdc@...> wrote:
ok Kid's, I am coordinating this event,  I have picked the 14th of November at4:pm at society bar/billiards 1051 Garnet ave 92109.
I need to R.S.V.P. this event, My E-mail is sdpbdc@...
B(buy) YOB, AND FOOD. This should be a fun night of getting to know each other, playing pool, there is a bar/ restaurant.
please R.S.V.P me so can reserve a table or 2, we will have to pay for the table's when we get there.

See you there
David Clausson
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On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 10:31 AM MIA Jones <calmiaa@...> wrote:
I'd love to go and learn but Tues or Weds works best for me. Thanks! Mia

On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 21:52 david clausson <sdpbdc@...> wrote:
well I think we should all get together at Society down on garnet, after the holladay preferably in the middle of the week would be less traffic in there.1st or 2nd week in NOV ?? we can down a few beer's an have some fun, can everyone pick a week that work's for you? 

Dave  

On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 9:26 PM MIA Jones <calmiaa@...> wrote:
The following weekend is Halloween weekend and some of these venues may be booked for costume parties. Maybe check before planning?

On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 16:13 debwatson1099 <debwatson1099@...> wrote:
You did fine it's just fun to play Rob 



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From: Rob Gordon <rob@...>
Date: 10/16/18 15:38 (GMT-08:00)
To: pb-over-40@..., Deb Watson <debwatson1099@...>, David Clausson <sdpbdc@...>
Subject: Re: anyone like to play pool?

@Deb Watson  How nice to hear from you.  Remember when you and I played pool at Silver Fox?  I really sucked, huh.

@David Clausson  Maybe not the dedicated kind of pool you want, but we haven't yet done a happy hour at the West End.  Maybe you would like to be the host of one there?  I could help promote.  This weekend may have too much going on but maybe the week after?



On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 3:33 PM debwatson1099 <debwatson1099@...> wrote:
Yes fun.. Let me know when and where :) 



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Date: 10/16/18 12:38 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: Re: anyone like to play pool?

This would be fun! Count us in if you plan something. 

~ Jenni

On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 5:55 AM Marie Lapointe <lamarienicole@...> wrote:
I’d be open to learning how to play. Or at least not be so much of an embarrassment when I try to play ;)

Thanks for the invite!

Marie 

On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 10:04 PM david clausson <sdpbdc@...> wrote:
sure, there is college billiards, definitely cheaper rate's. also o billard's in kearny mesa, and on cue. all have big table's there are a few more but most of these one's I mentioned have cheaper hourly rate's an there food is not half bad either.
Hit me up sometime we can go and practice together.

David .   

On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 9:06 PM Rob Gordon <caltrade@...> wrote:
Hi David - great to see you here.  Just out of curiosity may I ask where you play pool now?  I thought that Society place might be fun for a happy hour but it it a little pricey for me. 

Rob
 

On Monday, October 15, 2018 at 7:03:08 PM UTC-7, david clausson wrote:
Hi, My name is david an I know a few thing about playing pool, If you would like to learn? I could help you with that. 
if you think your pretty good at it an wanna play with a guy who think's he is good too? I like the 9ft. tables bar tables are good too.
if you just like to go out an have fun I am your man.

Hope to hear from you

David C

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Re: New events posting on FB

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This has become pathetic. 


On Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 11:24:30 PM UTC-7, Rob Gordon wrote:
Mia - since you didn't respond to my private message requesting clarification about your comment I will say the same thing to you and to everyone here.   The incident that happened on Facebook was ugly - it went a little beyond "high school".  While most people don't care one way or another for some people Facebook is part of their identity and anything that happens outside that platform is not considered to be illegitimate - and sometimes even seen as something that should be attacked. 

There is no need to make additional posts on this group telling people about the Facebook - there isn't a single person here who doesn't know about it.  No one is being forced to stay in this little group and people who would rather have everything on Facebook really should opt out.  Looks like the Facebook group has grown by more than 50 people today alone so there will be even more people to Friend there.  As Peter described there is a link at the bottom of every email to unsubscribe or you can simple send an email this address to be removed pb-over-40+unsubscribe@... 

Once you have done this, you won't get a single additional message or calendar from me or anyone who posts to this group. If anyone needs to announce publicly that they are leaving please get it over with.  I would rather have a smaller group of people who don't mind being here rather than have people who don't want to be here.

Thank you

Rob


On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 8:03 PM MIA Jones <cal...@...> wrote:
Rob, is this an over 40 group or is this a high school group? I am very confused.

Mia

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 19:20 Rob Gordon <rob@...> wrote:
I will remove manually anyone who can't figure out how to use the unsubscribe link,, but almost always when someone announces publicly that "remove me from this group" it is intended to be a public insult the person who manages the community, and I am no longer going to pretend otherwise. 

At best, it is also impolite to use a group to publicly promote another group without asking a moderator first.  Maybe some people actually don't know that - and Facebook culture is different - I noticed one of the Facebook members promoting the over 40 Facebook on the "Social Pacific Beach" group and as I am technically still a moderator you have gotten a huge number of new members today from that group alone.  For future reference, however, it is like going to a party and saying "my party is better" - it is just rude.

If anyone is worried that this doesn't hurt me, let me assure you I feel like crap, but even that I can take.  The attack on one of our members yesterday on Facebook post - since removed - however, took this to a whole level.  Some really vicious innuendo about a person whose only crime was "not being on Facebook" and I did have to stop everything I was doing to deal with that.

So if I am not a perfect Facebook citizen and am not in the in crowd there, I have my reasons.

Rob

 



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This will get the job done without it being a 'statement' to the group...


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Rob 
Please take me off google groups.

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On Oct 17, 2018, at 16:10, Suzanne McDonald <suzmcd...@...> wrote:

Just an FYI. I would not have known about this awesome group of PB neighbors if I had not seen it on the FB 'PB social page'. So thankful it led me here! Also, I am not friends with any of the members on FB. I simply go to the PB over 40 FB page to review whats happening. You do not have to have FB friends to use the page that was created. We are all there as members. No friending required! Woohoo. 

Thank you to you Rob again and everyone who started such an awesome group. I am truly thankful and count both groups to be one and the same as we are the same members just using a simpler format (FB)to post what's up too. 

Life is getting shorter and shorter let's enjoy the ride baby!

Can't wait to see you all again soon!

Peace 
Suz

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Thank you so much for promoting Facebook here Jim - with four billion users I am sure they appreciate your help.  As others here have also said, if I am forced to use Facebook I will quit this group.   Since that Facebook group started as a result of the organizing I did here, the time I now spend on Facebook has at least quadrupled - but I have not made a single new friend there or deepened a single relationship.   Yesterday was the worst of all - I can't go into it but as a result of a false accusation made on Facebook about one of our members here I had to spend nearly two hours - time I can't afford - addressing that unnecessary Facebook drama.  

Real communities almost never start on Facebook - they find groups that have started somewhere else and take them - ,get their member and apply their "social graph" to them - usually at the exact point where they are just getting traction.   Zuckerberg pretty much announced this - that "all communities" should now be only on Facebook. 

I have supported the Facebook group -  in addition to the members we organized here, it started with my photos and logo and other material we created.  Sill, I always made sure I have support that group by posting the events I organize and sometimes the events other people have organized for the benefit of people who have to have everything on Facebook.  For a while, that was reciprocated, but a few people from there seem to believe we don't even have the right to exist.

The PB40  group was started with the spirit of "meeting people you don't know" and being welcoming to them, but Facebook is the exact opposite of that - it is about "connecting with your existing friends" and they control what you see and make sure it is as time consuming as possible.  I know I will never be in the Facebook "in crowd" but I personally don't have the time to spend my life "friending" people there.

I assume the Facebook zealots will eventually win - that they will destroy what we have built here, but what you should know is that Facebook is all that it will ever be.  I was planning some innovations here - to make it easier to meet adults in our community to meet other adults with similar interests - but those will never happen if this goes away.   Already it seems to me, that has gone from being "a group on Facebook" to being "a Facebook group" - not everyone knows the difference, but there is one.

Be careful what you wish for. 

Rob

P.S.  I am EXTREMELY grateful to the people who have supported what we are doing here - especially those who would rather be on Facebook but support us anyway - I know the interface here is less than perfect and I truly have appreciated your support. 



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Just a note to check FB group for new events that aren't on google group.

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Re: anyone like to play pool?

 

Fantastic David - count me in.   You seemed to have uncovered an area where there is ton of interest here.   A week or so before your meetup I will send a calendar invitation to everyone - I am sure you will get a great turnout. 

Rob


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yep ill rent a table at 4 so we have gather area, I am hoping everyone is able to navigate these messages,so everyone who is interested  there is a over 40 gathering at society bar an billiards. on the 14th of Nov, starting at 4pm. 

Dave.     

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Sounds great - so it will be at least a few hours right?  - if some people don't make it till five or six?   Some people will be able to make it by 4pm I am sure.  Looks like you have found an area with lots of interest so I am sure you will get a decent turnout.

Rob




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I know the owner, Rob so when I know how many people R.S.V.P I should be able to get a better price per person for the renting the table's. as to time for people to show up, 4:00 is when ill be there...people can show up later it's ok.

Dave

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Awesome David - I am wondering though if it was just a bit later more of our members with day jobs could make it.  Also may I ask what the table fees are?  Thank you for taking the lead on this.

Rob

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ok Kid's, I am coordinating this event,  I have picked the 14th of November at4:pm at society bar/billiards 1051 Garnet ave 92109.
I need to R.S.V.P. this event, My E-mail is sdpbdc@...
B(buy) YOB, AND FOOD. This should be a fun night of getting to know each other, playing pool, there is a bar/ restaurant.
please R.S.V.P me so can reserve a table or 2, we will have to pay for the table's when we get there.

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On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 10:31 AM MIA Jones <calmiaa@...> wrote:
I'd love to go and learn but Tues or Weds works best for me. Thanks! Mia

On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 21:52 david clausson <sdpbdc@...> wrote:
well I think we should all get together at Society down on garnet, after the holladay preferably in the middle of the week would be less traffic in there.1st or 2nd week in NOV ?? we can down a few beer's an have some fun, can everyone pick a week that work's for you? 

Dave  

On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 9:26 PM MIA Jones <calmiaa@...> wrote:
The following weekend is Halloween weekend and some of these venues may be booked for costume parties. Maybe check before planning?

On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 16:13 debwatson1099 <debwatson1099@...> wrote:
You did fine it's just fun to play Rob 



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Subject: Re: anyone like to play pool?

@Deb Watson  How nice to hear from you.  Remember when you and I played pool at Silver Fox?  I really sucked, huh.

@David Clausson  Maybe not the dedicated kind of pool you want, but we haven't yet done a happy hour at the West End.  Maybe you would like to be the host of one there?  I could help promote.  This weekend may have too much going on but maybe the week after?



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Yes fun.. Let me know when and where :) 



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Subject: Re: anyone like to play pool?

This would be fun! Count us in if you plan something. 

~ Jenni

On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 5:55 AM Marie Lapointe <lamarienicole@...> wrote:
I’d be open to learning how to play. Or at least not be so much of an embarrassment when I try to play ;)

Thanks for the invite!

Marie 

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sure, there is college billiards, definitely cheaper rate's. also o billard's in kearny mesa, and on cue. all have big table's there are a few more but most of these one's I mentioned have cheaper hourly rate's an there food is not half bad either.
Hit me up sometime we can go and practice together.

David .   

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Hi David - great to see you here.  Just out of curiosity may I ask where you play pool now?  I thought that Society place might be fun for a happy hour but it it a little pricey for me. 

Rob
 

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Hi, My name is david an I know a few thing about playing pool, If you would like to learn? I could help you with that. 
if you think your pretty good at it an wanna play with a guy who think's he is good too? I like the 9ft. tables bar tables are good too.
if you just like to go out an have fun I am your man.

Hope to hear from you

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Re: New events posting on FB

 

Mia - since you didn't respond to my private message requesting clarification about your comment I will say the same thing to you and to everyone here.   The incident that happened on Facebook was ugly - it went a little beyond "high school".  While most people don't care one way or another for some people Facebook is part of their identity and anything that happens outside that platform is not considered to be illegitimate - and sometimes even seen as something that should be attacked. 

There is no need to make additional posts on this group telling people about the Facebook - there isn't a single person here who doesn't know about it.  No one is being forced to stay in this little group and people who would rather have everything on Facebook really should opt out.  Looks like the Facebook group has grown by more than 50 people today alone so there will be even more people to Friend there.  As Peter described there is a link at the bottom of every email to unsubscribe or you can simple send an email this address to be removed pb-over-40+unsubscribe@....  

Once you have done this, you won't get a single additional message or calendar from me or anyone who posts to this group. If anyone needs to announce publicly that they are leaving please get it over with.  I would rather have a smaller group of people who don't mind being here rather than have people who don't want to be here.

Thank you

Rob


On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 8:03 PM MIA Jones <calmiaa@...> wrote:
Rob, is this an over 40 group or is this a high school group? I am very confused.

Mia

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 19:20 Rob Gordon <rob@...> wrote:
I will remove manually anyone who can't figure out how to use the unsubscribe link,, but almost always when someone announces publicly that "remove me from this group" it is intended to be a public insult the person who manages the community, and I am no longer going to pretend otherwise. 

At best, it is also impolite to use a group to publicly promote another group without asking a moderator first.  Maybe some people actually don't know that - and Facebook culture is different - I noticed one of the Facebook members promoting the over 40 Facebook on the "Social Pacific Beach" group and as I am technically still a moderator you have gotten a huge number of new members today from that group alone.  For future reference, however, it is like going to a party and saying "my party is better" - it is just rude.

If anyone is worried that this doesn't hurt me, let me assure you I feel like crap, but even that I can take.  The attack on one of our members yesterday on Facebook post - since removed - however, took this to a whole level.  Some really vicious innuendo about a person whose only crime was "not being on Facebook" and I did have to stop everything I was doing to deal with that.

So if I am not a perfect Facebook citizen and am not in the in crowd there, I have my reasons.

Rob

 



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Rob 
Please take me off google groups.

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On Oct 17, 2018, at 16:10, Suzanne McDonald <suzmcdonald9@...> wrote:

Just an FYI. I would not have known about this awesome group of PB neighbors if I had not seen it on the FB 'PB social page'. So thankful it led me here! Also, I am not friends with any of the members on FB. I simply go to the PB over 40 FB page to review whats happening. You do not have to have FB friends to use the page that was created. We are all there as members. No friending required! Woohoo. 

Thank you to you Rob again and everyone who started such an awesome group. I am truly thankful and count both groups to be one and the same as we are the same members just using a simpler format (FB)to post what's up too. 

Life is getting shorter and shorter let's enjoy the ride baby!

Can't wait to see you all again soon!

Peace 
Suz

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Thank you so much for promoting Facebook here Jim - with four billion users I am sure they appreciate your help.  As others here have also said, if I am forced to use Facebook I will quit this group.   Since that Facebook group started as a result of the organizing I did here, the time I now spend on Facebook has at least quadrupled - but I have not made a single new friend there or deepened a single relationship.   Yesterday was the worst of all - I can't go into it but as a result of a false accusation made on Facebook about one of our members here I had to spend nearly two hours - time I can't afford - addressing that unnecessary Facebook drama.  

Real communities almost never start on Facebook - they find groups that have started somewhere else and take them - ,get their member and apply their "social graph" to them - usually at the exact point where they are just getting traction.   Zuckerberg pretty much announced this - that "all communities" should now be only on Facebook. 

I have supported the Facebook group -  in addition to the members we organized here, it started with my photos and logo and other material we created.  Sill, I always made sure I have support that group by posting the events I organize and sometimes the events other people have organized for the benefit of people who have to have everything on Facebook.  For a while, that was reciprocated, but a few people from there seem to believe we don't even have the right to exist.

The PB40  group was started with the spirit of "meeting people you don't know" and being welcoming to them, but Facebook is the exact opposite of that - it is about "connecting with your existing friends" and they control what you see and make sure it is as time consuming as possible.  I know I will never be in the Facebook "in crowd" but I personally don't have the time to spend my life "friending" people there.

I assume the Facebook zealots will eventually win - that they will destroy what we have built here, but what you should know is that Facebook is all that it will ever be.  I was planning some innovations here - to make it easier to meet adults in our community to meet other adults with similar interests - but those will never happen if this goes away.   Already it seems to me, that has gone from being "a group on Facebook" to being "a Facebook group" - not everyone knows the difference, but there is one.

Be careful what you wish for. 

Rob

P.S.  I am EXTREMELY grateful to the people who have supported what we are doing here - especially those who would rather be on Facebook but support us anyway - I know the interface here is less than perfect and I truly have appreciated your support. 



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Just a note to check FB group for new events that aren't on google group.

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Re: anyone like to play pool?

David cCausson
 

yep ill rent a table at 4 so we have gather area, I am hoping everyone is able to navigate these messages,so everyone who is interested  there is a over 40 gathering at society bar an billiards. on the 14th of Nov, starting at 4pm. 

Dave.     

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Sounds great - so it will be at least a few hours right?  - if some people don't make it till five or six?   Some people will be able to make it by 4pm I am sure.  Looks like you have found an area with lots of interest so I am sure you will get a decent turnout.

Rob




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I know the owner, Rob so when I know how many people R.S.V.P I should be able to get a better price per person for the renting the table's. as to time for people to show up, 4:00 is when ill be there...people can show up later it's ok.

Dave

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Awesome David - I am wondering though if it was just a bit later more of our members with day jobs could make it.  Also may I ask what the table fees are?  Thank you for taking the lead on this.

Rob

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ok Kid's, I am coordinating this event,  I have picked the 14th of November at4:pm at society bar/billiards 1051 Garnet ave 92109.
I need to R.S.V.P. this event, My E-mail is sdpbdc@...
B(buy) YOB, AND FOOD. This should be a fun night of getting to know each other, playing pool, there is a bar/ restaurant.
please R.S.V.P me so can reserve a table or 2, we will have to pay for the table's when we get there.

See you there
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On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 10:31 AM MIA Jones <calmiaa@...> wrote:
I'd love to go and learn but Tues or Weds works best for me. Thanks! Mia

On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 21:52 david clausson <sdpbdc@...> wrote:
well I think we should all get together at Society down on garnet, after the holladay preferably in the middle of the week would be less traffic in there.1st or 2nd week in NOV ?? we can down a few beer's an have some fun, can everyone pick a week that work's for you? 

Dave  

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The following weekend is Halloween weekend and some of these venues may be booked for costume parties. Maybe check before planning?

On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 16:13 debwatson1099 <debwatson1099@...> wrote:
You did fine it's just fun to play Rob 



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Subject: Re: anyone like to play pool?

@Deb Watson  How nice to hear from you.  Remember when you and I played pool at Silver Fox?  I really sucked, huh.

@David Clausson  Maybe not the dedicated kind of pool you want, but we haven't yet done a happy hour at the West End.  Maybe you would like to be the host of one there?  I could help promote.  This weekend may have too much going on but maybe the week after?



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Yes fun.. Let me know when and where :) 



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Subject: Re: anyone like to play pool?

This would be fun! Count us in if you plan something. 

~ Jenni

On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 5:55 AM Marie Lapointe <lamarienicole@...> wrote:
I’d be open to learning how to play. Or at least not be so much of an embarrassment when I try to play ;)

Thanks for the invite!

Marie 

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sure, there is college billiards, definitely cheaper rate's. also o billard's in kearny mesa, and on cue. all have big table's there are a few more but most of these one's I mentioned have cheaper hourly rate's an there food is not half bad either.
Hit me up sometime we can go and practice together.

David .   

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Hi David - great to see you here.  Just out of curiosity may I ask where you play pool now?  I thought that Society place might be fun for a happy hour but it it a little pricey for me. 

Rob
 

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Hi, My name is david an I know a few thing about playing pool, If you would like to learn? I could help you with that. 
if you think your pretty good at it an wanna play with a guy who think's he is good too? I like the 9ft. tables bar tables are good too.
if you just like to go out an have fun I am your man.

Hope to hear from you

David C

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Re: New events posting on FB

MIA Jones <calmiaa@...>
 

Rob, is this an over 40 group or is this a high school group? I am very confused.

Mia

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 19:20 Rob Gordon <rob@...> wrote:
I will remove manually anyone who can't figure out how to use the unsubscribe link,, but almost always when someone announces publicly that "remove me from this group" it is intended to be a public insult the person who manages the community, and I am no longer going to pretend otherwise. 

At best, it is also impolite to use a group to publicly promote another group without asking a moderator first.  Maybe some people actually don't know that - and Facebook culture is different - I noticed one of the Facebook members promoting the over 40 Facebook on the "Social Pacific Beach" group and as I am technically still a moderator you have gotten a huge number of new members today from that group alone.  For future reference, however, it is like going to a party and saying "my party is better" - it is just rude.

If anyone is worried that this doesn't hurt me, let me assure you I feel like crap, but even that I can take.  The attack on one of our members yesterday on Facebook post - since removed - however, took this to a whole level.  Some really vicious innuendo about a person whose only crime was "not being on Facebook" and I did have to stop everything I was doing to deal with that.

So if I am not a perfect Facebook citizen and am not in the in crowd there, I have my reasons.

Rob

 



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On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 4:58 PM Marvin Robbins <marvin@...> wrote:
Rob 
Please take me off google groups.

Marvin Robbins
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On Oct 17, 2018, at 16:10, Suzanne McDonald <suzmcdonald9@...> wrote:

Just an FYI. I would not have known about this awesome group of PB neighbors if I had not seen it on the FB 'PB social page'. So thankful it led me here! Also, I am not friends with any of the members on FB. I simply go to the PB over 40 FB page to review whats happening. You do not have to have FB friends to use the page that was created. We are all there as members. No friending required! Woohoo. 

Thank you to you Rob again and everyone who started such an awesome group. I am truly thankful and count both groups to be one and the same as we are the same members just using a simpler format (FB)to post what's up too. 

Life is getting shorter and shorter let's enjoy the ride baby!

Can't wait to see you all again soon!

Peace 
Suz

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 3:15 PM Rob Gordon <rob@...> wrote:
Thank you so much for promoting Facebook here Jim - with four billion users I am sure they appreciate your help.  As others here have also said, if I am forced to use Facebook I will quit this group.   Since that Facebook group started as a result of the organizing I did here, the time I now spend on Facebook has at least quadrupled - but I have not made a single new friend there or deepened a single relationship.   Yesterday was the worst of all - I can't go into it but as a result of a false accusation made on Facebook about one of our members here I had to spend nearly two hours - time I can't afford - addressing that unnecessary Facebook drama.  

Real communities almost never start on Facebook - they find groups that have started somewhere else and take them - ,get their member and apply their "social graph" to them - usually at the exact point where they are just getting traction.   Zuckerberg pretty much announced this - that "all communities" should now be only on Facebook. 

I have supported the Facebook group -  in addition to the members we organized here, it started with my photos and logo and other material we created.  Sill, I always made sure I have support that group by posting the events I organize and sometimes the events other people have organized for the benefit of people who have to have everything on Facebook.  For a while, that was reciprocated, but a few people from there seem to believe we don't even have the right to exist.

The PB40  group was started with the spirit of "meeting people you don't know" and being welcoming to them, but Facebook is the exact opposite of that - it is about "connecting with your existing friends" and they control what you see and make sure it is as time consuming as possible.  I know I will never be in the Facebook "in crowd" but I personally don't have the time to spend my life "friending" people there.

I assume the Facebook zealots will eventually win - that they will destroy what we have built here, but what you should know is that Facebook is all that it will ever be.  I was planning some innovations here - to make it easier to meet adults in our community to meet other adults with similar interests - but those will never happen if this goes away.   Already it seems to me, that has gone from being "a group on Facebook" to being "a Facebook group" - not everyone knows the difference, but there is one.

Be careful what you wish for. 

Rob

P.S.  I am EXTREMELY grateful to the people who have supported what we are doing here - especially those who would rather be on Facebook but support us anyway - I know the interface here is less than perfect and I truly have appreciated your support. 



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Re: New events posting on FB

 

I will remove manually anyone who can't figure out how to use the unsubscribe link,, but almost always when someone announces publicly that "remove me from this group" it is intended to be a public insult the person who manages the community, and I am no longer going to pretend otherwise. 

At best, it is also impolite to use a group to publicly promote another group without asking a moderator first.  Maybe some people actually don't know that - and Facebook culture is different - I noticed one of the Facebook members promoting the over 40 Facebook on the "Social Pacific Beach" group and as I am technically still a moderator you have gotten a huge number of new members today from that group alone.  For future reference, however, it is like going to a party and saying "my party is better" - it is just rude.

If anyone is worried that this doesn't hurt me, let me assure you I feel like crap, but even that I can take.  The attack on one of our members yesterday on Facebook post - since removed - however, took this to a whole level.  Some really vicious innuendo about a person whose only crime was "not being on Facebook" and I did have to stop everything I was doing to deal with that.

So if I am not a perfect Facebook citizen and am not in the in crowd there, I have my reasons.

Rob

 



On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 6:49 PM Peter Hologram Man <peter@...> wrote:
Group - if anyone needs to be removed from the Google Group, all they need do is hit "unsubscribe" which is in the bottom of each e-mail - see the screenshot below taken directly from this e-mail conversation:

This will get the job done without it being a 'statement' to the group...


On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 4:58 PM Marvin Robbins <marvin@...> wrote:
Rob 
Please take me off google groups.

Marvin Robbins
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On Oct 17, 2018, at 16:10, Suzanne McDonald <suzmcdonald9@...> wrote:

Just an FYI. I would not have known about this awesome group of PB neighbors if I had not seen it on the FB 'PB social page'. So thankful it led me here! Also, I am not friends with any of the members on FB. I simply go to the PB over 40 FB page to review whats happening. You do not have to have FB friends to use the page that was created. We are all there as members. No friending required! Woohoo. 

Thank you to you Rob again and everyone who started such an awesome group. I am truly thankful and count both groups to be one and the same as we are the same members just using a simpler format (FB)to post what's up too. 

Life is getting shorter and shorter let's enjoy the ride baby!

Can't wait to see you all again soon!

Peace 
Suz

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 3:15 PM Rob Gordon <rob@...> wrote:
Thank you so much for promoting Facebook here Jim - with four billion users I am sure they appreciate your help.  As others here have also said, if I am forced to use Facebook I will quit this group.   Since that Facebook group started as a result of the organizing I did here, the time I now spend on Facebook has at least quadrupled - but I have not made a single new friend there or deepened a single relationship.   Yesterday was the worst of all - I can't go into it but as a result of a false accusation made on Facebook about one of our members here I had to spend nearly two hours - time I can't afford - addressing that unnecessary Facebook drama.  

Real communities almost never start on Facebook - they find groups that have started somewhere else and take them - ,get their member and apply their "social graph" to them - usually at the exact point where they are just getting traction.   Zuckerberg pretty much announced this - that "all communities" should now be only on Facebook. 

I have supported the Facebook group -  in addition to the members we organized here, it started with my photos and logo and other material we created.  Sill, I always made sure I have support that group by posting the events I organize and sometimes the events other people have organized for the benefit of people who have to have everything on Facebook.  For a while, that was reciprocated, but a few people from there seem to believe we don't even have the right to exist.

The PB40  group was started with the spirit of "meeting people you don't know" and being welcoming to them, but Facebook is the exact opposite of that - it is about "connecting with your existing friends" and they control what you see and make sure it is as time consuming as possible.  I know I will never be in the Facebook "in crowd" but I personally don't have the time to spend my life "friending" people there.

I assume the Facebook zealots will eventually win - that they will destroy what we have built here, but what you should know is that Facebook is all that it will ever be.  I was planning some innovations here - to make it easier to meet adults in our community to meet other adults with similar interests - but those will never happen if this goes away.   Already it seems to me, that has gone from being "a group on Facebook" to being "a Facebook group" - not everyone knows the difference, but there is one.

Be careful what you wish for. 

Rob

P.S.  I am EXTREMELY grateful to the people who have supported what we are doing here - especially those who would rather be on Facebook but support us anyway - I know the interface here is less than perfect and I truly have appreciated your support. 



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Re: New events posting on FB

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Group - if anyone needs to be removed from the Google Group, all they need do is hit "unsubscribe" which is in the bottom of each e-mail - see the screenshot below taken directly from this e-mail conversation:

This will get the job done without it being a 'statement' to the group...


On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 4:58 PM Marvin Robbins <marvin@...> wrote:
Rob 
Please take me off google groups.

Marvin Robbins
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On Oct 17, 2018, at 16:10, Suzanne McDonald <suzmcdonald9@...> wrote:

Just an FYI. I would not have known about this awesome group of PB neighbors if I had not seen it on the FB 'PB social page'. So thankful it led me here! Also, I am not friends with any of the members on FB. I simply go to the PB over 40 FB page to review whats happening. You do not have to have FB friends to use the page that was created. We are all there as members. No friending required! Woohoo. 

Thank you to you Rob again and everyone who started such an awesome group. I am truly thankful and count both groups to be one and the same as we are the same members just using a simpler format (FB)to post what's up too. 

Life is getting shorter and shorter let's enjoy the ride baby!

Can't wait to see you all again soon!

Peace 
Suz

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 3:15 PM Rob Gordon <rob@...> wrote:
Thank you so much for promoting Facebook here Jim - with four billion users I am sure they appreciate your help.  As others here have also said, if I am forced to use Facebook I will quit this group.   Since that Facebook group started as a result of the organizing I did here, the time I now spend on Facebook has at least quadrupled - but I have not made a single new friend there or deepened a single relationship.   Yesterday was the worst of all - I can't go into it but as a result of a false accusation made on Facebook about one of our members here I had to spend nearly two hours - time I can't afford - addressing that unnecessary Facebook drama.  

Real communities almost never start on Facebook - they find groups that have started somewhere else and take them - ,get their member and apply their "social graph" to them - usually at the exact point where they are just getting traction.   Zuckerberg pretty much announced this - that "all communities" should now be only on Facebook. 

I have supported the Facebook group -  in addition to the members we organized here, it started with my photos and logo and other material we created.  Sill, I always made sure I have support that group by posting the events I organize and sometimes the events other people have organized for the benefit of people who have to have everything on Facebook.  For a while, that was reciprocated, but a few people from there seem to believe we don't even have the right to exist.

The PB40  group was started with the spirit of "meeting people you don't know" and being welcoming to them, but Facebook is the exact opposite of that - it is about "connecting with your existing friends" and they control what you see and make sure it is as time consuming as possible.  I know I will never be in the Facebook "in crowd" but I personally don't have the time to spend my life "friending" people there.

I assume the Facebook zealots will eventually win - that they will destroy what we have built here, but what you should know is that Facebook is all that it will ever be.  I was planning some innovations here - to make it easier to meet adults in our community to meet other adults with similar interests - but those will never happen if this goes away.   Already it seems to me, that has gone from being "a group on Facebook" to being "a Facebook group" - not everyone knows the difference, but there is one.

Be careful what you wish for. 

Rob

P.S.  I am EXTREMELY grateful to the people who have supported what we are doing here - especially those who would rather be on Facebook but support us anyway - I know the interface here is less than perfect and I truly have appreciated your support. 



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Re: New events posting on FB

Jim Kova
 

This was a courtesy note for those who predominantly use google group format & not FB. 

As Lincoln said, "You can please some of the people some of the time but not all the people all the time" & this is no exception. 

Im not interested in debating the issue. I preferred google groups but found some were only using FB, which the format is a bit easier & fewer emails (I'm still dealing w/ that) so I'm just rolling w/ it. End of story.

Both groups are private so it's incorrect that anyone can see everything on GG format. The only public for all to see is nextdoor app.



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Just a note to check FB group for new events that aren't on google group.

Re: New events posting on FB

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Rob 
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Just an FYI. I would not have known about this awesome group of PB neighbors if I had not seen it on the FB 'PB social page'. So thankful it led me here! Also, I am not friends with any of the members on FB. I simply go to the PB over 40 FB page to review whats happening. You do not have to have FB friends to use the page that was created. We are all there as members. No friending required! Woohoo. 

Thank you to you Rob again and everyone who started such an awesome group. I am truly thankful and count both groups to be one and the same as we are the same members just using a simpler format (FB)to post what's up too. 

Life is getting shorter and shorter let's enjoy the ride baby!

Can't wait to see you all again soon!

Peace 
Suz

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 3:15 PM Rob Gordon <rob@...> wrote:
Thank you so much for promoting Facebook here Jim - with four billion users I am sure they appreciate your help.  As others here have also said, if I am forced to use Facebook I will quit this group.   Since that Facebook group started as a result of the organizing I did here, the time I now spend on Facebook has at least quadrupled - but I have not made a single new friend there or deepened a single relationship.   Yesterday was the worst of all - I can't go into it but as a result of a false accusation made on Facebook about one of our members here I had to spend nearly two hours - time I can't afford - addressing that unnecessary Facebook drama.  

Real communities almost never start on Facebook - they find groups that have started somewhere else and take them - ,get their member and apply their "social graph" to them - usually at the exact point where they are just getting traction.   Zuckerberg pretty much announced this - that "all communities" should now be only on Facebook. 

I have supported the Facebook group -  in addition to the members we organized here, it started with my photos and logo and other material we created.  Sill, I always made sure I have support that group by posting the events I organize and sometimes the events other people have organized for the benefit of people who have to have everything on Facebook.  For a while, that was reciprocated, but a few people from there seem to believe we don't even have the right to exist.

The PB40  group was started with the spirit of "meeting people you don't know" and being welcoming to them, but Facebook is the exact opposite of that - it is about "connecting with your existing friends" and they control what you see and make sure it is as time consuming as possible.  I know I will never be in the Facebook "in crowd" but I personally don't have the time to spend my life "friending" people there.

I assume the Facebook zealots will eventually win - that they will destroy what we have built here, but what you should know is that Facebook is all that it will ever be.  I was planning some innovations here - to make it easier to meet adults in our community to meet other adults with similar interests - but those will never happen if this goes away.   Already it seems to me, that has gone from being "a group on Facebook" to being "a Facebook group" - not everyone knows the difference, but there is one.

Be careful what you wish for. 

Rob

P.S.  I am EXTREMELY grateful to the people who have supported what we are doing here - especially those who would rather be on Facebook but support us anyway - I know the interface here is less than perfect and I truly have appreciated your support. 



On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 2:26 PM Jim Kova <jkova58@...> wrote:
Just a note to check FB group for new events that aren't on google group.

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